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slmick5 New User dmeame@yahoo.com Sep 13, 2006, 5:58 PM Post #1 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Winningest hand in poker Can't Post I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to research hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest starting hand would be?  Somehow I think it would be some suited connector or one gapper.  I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands.  Ideas? Bluffing only works when it works _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

pokergent New User 43081817@recpoker.com Sep 13, 2006, 6:09 PM Post #2 of 29(831 views) Shortcut seriously? [In reply to] Can't Post   AAKK DOUBLE SUITED IN OMAHA AA23 IN OMAHA HI LOW AAA IN STUD AA IN HOLDEM A IN INDIAN THATS ALL FOLKS :) Romans 8:28 _______________________________________________________________ The Largest Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"mattb8818" New User mattb8818@yahoo.com Sep 13, 2006, 6:10 PM Post #3 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   slmick5 wrote: > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to research > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector or > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? > Bluffing only works when it works > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com waces No Karma

OrlandoCuse New User 43080786@recpoker.com Sep 13, 2006, 6:35 PM Post #4 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   This is easy - its the hand my opponent has. On Sep 13 2006 5:58 PM, slmick5 wrote: > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to research > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > starting hand would be?  Somehow I think it would be some suited connector or > one gapper.  I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands.  Ideas? > Bluffing only works when it works > > _______________________________________________________________ The Largest Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"Casey" New User cashed@gmail.com Sep 13, 2006, 6:39 PM Post #5 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: seriously? [In reply to] Can't Post pokergent wrote: > AAKK DOUBLE SUITED IN OMAHA Obviously AAKK ds has a great deal of preflop equtiy, but I think a hand like AAJT ds would play better after the flop on a much wider range of boards. You did have a good bullshit answer for a bullshit question though. No Karma

"Studley" New User Studley Sep 13, 2006, 7:35 PM Post #6 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post Might be AA suited ;-) Studley ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- No Karma

"kevin  cline" New User kevin.cline@gmail.com Sep 13, 2006, 9:13 PM Post #7 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   slmick5 wrote: > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to research > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector or > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? At Limit Hold'em, AA wins the most money by far. No Karma

"Irish Mike" New User mjostar@ameritech.net Sep 13, 2006, 10:07 PM Post #8 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post "Winningest hand in poker?" The nuts on the river. Irish Mike "kevin cline" <kevin.cline@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1158196399.424408.41630@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > slmick5 wrote: >> I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to >> research >> hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest >> starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited >> connector or >> one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? > > At Limit Hold'em, AA wins the most money by far. > No Karma

Dr Zen New User freddyvessant@gmail.com Sep 13, 2006, 10:28 PM Post #9 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:07:32 GMT, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote: >"Winningest hand in poker?" > >The nuts on the river. If I'm all in with AQ, absolutely anything that calls. -- Dr Zen King of the wild pixels. http://gollyg.blogspot.com No Karma

"jeffc" New User jeffc226@yahoo.com Sep 13, 2006, 11:37 PM Post #10 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   "slmick5" <dmeame@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1158184702$869580@recpoker.com... > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to > research > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector > or > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? It is most likely Qd 9s. > Bluffing only works when it works I can't believe that. No Karma

slmick5 New User dmeame@yahoo.com Sep 13, 2006, 11:53 PM Post #11 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited.  I just don't think that it would be AA.  On Sep 13 2006 10:37 PM, jeffc wrote: > "slmick5" wrote in message > news:1158184702$869580@recpoker.com... > > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to > > research > > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector > > or > > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? > > It is most likely Qd 9s. > > > Bluffing only works when it works > > I can't believe that. Bluffing only works when it works _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

Dr Zen New User freddyvessant@gmail.com Sep 14, 2006, 12:02 AM Post #12 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post On Thu, 14 Sep 06 3:53:56 GMT, slmick5 <dmeame@yahoo.com> wrote: >I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited.  I just >don't think that it would be AA.  You are wrong. -- Dr Zen King of the wild pixels. http://gollyg.blogspot.com No Karma

"Flushed" New User dorsetvalley@yahoo.com Sep 14, 2006, 12:07 AM Post #13 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post Over 60k hands, mine is QQ, followed closely by AA and KK. Just illustrates a leak in my game...easier to get away from queens when they are beat. "Dr Zen" <freddyvessant@gmail.com> wrote in message news:k1lhg2h8f07eodj1di5rekr883v1lpfkif@4ax.com... > On Thu, 14 Sep 06 3:53:56 GMT, slmick5 <dmeame@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited. I >>just >>don't think that it would be AA. > > You are wrong. > > -- > > Dr Zen > King of the wild pixels. > http://gollyg.blogspot.com No Karma

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric_Olmanst?= New User kingricky2000@hotmail.com Sep 14, 2006, 12:14 AM Post #14 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post slmick5 a écrit : > I just don't think that it would be AA. Why not ? You have to check some books about probs in poker in the long run. No Karma

Dr Zen New User freddyvessant@gmail.com Sep 14, 2006, 12:17 AM Post #15 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:07:53 GMT, "Flushed" <dorsetvalley@yahoo.com> wrote: >Over 60k hands, mine is QQ, followed closely by AA and KK. Just illustrates >a leak in my game...easier to get away > from queens when they are beat. > For me, in the 9K I have in PT, I've won most money on AK, greatest percentage KK. If you have a leak with AA, I must have one with QQ, because after a ferocious run of suckouts, I'm losing with it. -- Dr Zen King of the wild pixels. http://gollyg.blogspot.com No Karma

Super Steamer New User 43071968@recpoker.com Sep 14, 2006, 12:17 AM Post #16 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   On Sep 13 2006 9:07 PM, Flushed wrote: > Over 60k hands, mine is QQ, followed closely by AA and KK. Just illustrates > a leak in my game...easier to get away > from queens when they are beat. > My winningest hands (hold em) are AA, KK, QQ, in that order. _______________________________________________________________ Block Lists, Favorites, and more - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

TheFleece New User 43084147@recpoker.com Sep 14, 2006, 12:44 AM Post #17 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   On Sep 14 2006 7:58 AM, slmick5 wrote: > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to research > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > starting hand would be?  Somehow I think it would be some suited connector or > one gapper.  I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands.  Ideas? > Bluffing only works when it works > > Aces are both the strongest hand and the most played hand (never laid down preflop). Lets not think to hard. _______________________________________________________________ Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"pokerchimp" New User mixthing@se.rr.com Sep 14, 2006, 1:04 AM Post #18 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post Actually, one of the first computer simulations of Hold Em found the Q7os was the winningest hand. I will try to find info. On Sep 13 2006 11:37 PM, jeffc wrote: > "slmick5" <dmeame@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1158184702$869580@recpoker.com... > > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to > > research > > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector > > or > > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? > > It is most likely Qd 9s. > > > Bluffing only works when it works > > I can't believe that. _____________________________________________________________________  looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com No Karma

"pokerchimp" New User mixthing@se.rr.com Sep 14, 2006, 1:14 AM Post #19 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post found this reference Essentially to answer the question, it is the average hand in a study of HEADS-UP hands ie 84 hands are worse when heads up against Q7o and 84 hands are better when heads up against Q7o Hope that helps, Welly and this First, I've never seen any solid explanation for why Q-7 offsuit is the Computer Hand, but it's not because it's the "median" hand. At least Gordon's explanation is plausible. Some people say that in a flawed simulation Q-7 was dealt more than any other hand. Some say it was incorrectly listed as the median hand in a flawed simulation. If you list the 169 starting Hold'em hands by heads-up strength vs. a random hand, J-4 suited is the one in the middle. If you're looking for the hand that is closest to even money heads-up the answer is J-5 suited with 49.99% equity (Q-7 offsuit is 51.77%). The hand that wins closest to its share in a random 10-handed showdown is is 6-3 suited (Q-7 offsuit is near the bottom with 8.015% win share). On Sep 13 2006 11:37 PM, jeffc wrote: > "slmick5" <dmeame@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1158184702$869580@recpoker.com... > > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to > > research > > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector > > or > > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? > > It is most likely Qd 9s. > > > Bluffing only works when it works > > I can't believe that. ____________________________________________________________________  looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com No Karma

"Edward Hutchison" New User ehutchison@jam.rr.com Sep 14, 2006, 8:44 AM Post #20 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   "pokerchimp" opined: "one of the first computer simulations of Hold Em found the Q7os was the winningest hand." Not really. There used to be a dealer in Vicksburg who always maintained this same "fact." A surprisingly large number of players believed it and repeated it. When questioned about the illogic of such a hand being the "winningest," the tune would sometimes change and it would be stated that the computer study actually showed that these two cards were the ones most likely to come on the flop. This is a little like saying that the people who think the moon is made of woofle dust are wrong because everyone "knows" it is made of green cheese. This same dealer would often point out that an all-in hand, "wins 88% of the time." This "fact," too, is often repeated. Oy vay. -- Edward Hutchison Madison, MS Objective reviews of Internet poker sites and a point system for evaluating poker starting hands: www.ERHutchison.com No Karma

"Iceman" New User oneofcold@yahoo.com Sep 14, 2006, 9:13 AM Post #21 of 29(831 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post slmick5 wrote: > I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited. I just > don't think that it would be AA. In limit holdem, it is definitely AA, and it is not even close. T8 suited is a marginal hand that is only slightly profitable even under the best conditions. In deep money no-limit, since bad players lose a lot by overplaying overpairs after the flop, it is quite possible that in games with many bad players AA would not be the winningest hand. But AA would definitely be the winningest hand in better-played games. No Karma

Dr Zen New User freddyvessant@gmail.com Sep 14, 2006, 7:33 PM Post #22 of 29(829 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post On 14 Sep 2006 06:13:47 -0700, "Iceman" <oneofcold@yahoo.com> wrote: >slmick5 wrote: >> I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited. I just >> don't think that it would be AA. > >In limit holdem, it is definitely AA, and it is not even close. T8 >suited is a marginal hand that is only slightly profitable even under >the best conditions. > >In deep money no-limit, since bad players lose a lot by overplaying >overpairs after the flop, it is quite possible that in games with many >bad players AA would not be the winningest hand. But AA would >definitely be the winningest hand in better-played games. Even bad players win a great deal of the time with AA. Mostly, they'll win because they don't fold it, and it holds up a good amount of the time. -- Dr Zen King of the wild pixels. http://gollyg.blogspot.com No Karma

Shintaro New User not_necessary@yahoo.com Sep 15, 2006, 3:28 AM Post #23 of 29(828 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post slmick5 wrote: > I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited. I just > don't think that it would be AA. > > On Sep 13 2006 10:37 PM, jeffc wrote: > > >>"slmick5" wrote in message >>news:1158184702$869580@recpoker.com... >> >>>I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to >>>research >>>hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest >>>starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector >>>or >>>one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? >> >>It is most likely Qd 9s. >> >> >>>Bluffing only works when it works >> >>I can't believe that. > > Bluffing only works when it works It's AA according to this simulation/starting hand ranking. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/People/mummert/poker/ No Karma

AstutoZorro@cardplayer.com New User AstutoZorro@cardplayer.com Sep 15, 2006, 5:12 AM Post #24 of 29(828 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post  TROLL slmick5 wrote: > I would think it would be something like 10 8 suited or J 10 suited. I just > don't think that it would be AA. > > On Sep 13 2006 10:37 PM, jeffc wrote: > > > "slmick5" wrote in message > > news:1158184702$869580@recpoker.com... > > > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to > > > research > > > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > > > starting hand would be? Somehow I think it would be some suited connector > > > or > > > one gapper. I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands. Ideas? > > > > It is most likely Qd 9s. > > > > > Bluffing only works when it works > > > > I can't believe that. > Bluffing only works when it works > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

arlo payne New User arlo_payne@hotmail.com Sep 15, 2006, 5:56 AM Post #25 of 29(828 views) Shortcut Re: Winningest hand in poker [In reply to] Can't Post   On Sep 13 2006 2:58 PM, slmick5 wrote: > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but if there was a way to research > hand historys from online gaming sites, what do you think the winningest > starting hand would be?  Somehow I think it would be some suited connector or > one gapper.  I really doubt it would be one of the top ten hands.  Ideas? > Bluffing only works when it works > > Hell son everyone in the know knows the Royal Arlo is the big money winner followed by the plan old Arlo. Don't be confused by those low payoff hands like Aces that win many times but make little when they do win and cost you a bundle when they get beat. Overall the Royal Arlo and the Arlo are the best money percentage hands in all of no limit holdem poker when yoou know how to play them and of course pay your dues on time each month. _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

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