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"Kinnipak"
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Sep 12, 2006, 8:57 PM

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I have tried to configure Mozilla Thunderbird to acess RGP but just cannot
get it to work. Can anyone out there give me a hint as to how to configure
it to work?

"just fucking google it" comments are welcome...

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Dead Dead Money
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Sep 12, 2006, 9:02 PM

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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:57:02 -0700, "Kinnipak"
<a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

>I have tried to configure Mozilla Thunderbird to acess RGP but just cannot
>get it to work. Can anyone out there give me a hint as to how to configure
>it to work?
>
>"just fucking google it" comments are welcome...
>
>---- 
>* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com

What error are you getting, if any?

Have you got your news server address configured correctly?

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Ron Sperber
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Sep 12, 2006, 9:15 PM

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Kinnipak wrote:
> I have tried to configure Mozilla Thunderbird to acess RGP but just cannot
> get it to work. Can anyone out there give me a hint as to how to configure
> it to work?
>
> "just fucking google it" comments are welcome...
>
> ----
> * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
>

You need the name of the news server from your ISP. Then go to Tools and
add account and add account of type news server. once you get the news
server set up you can tell it to subscribe to rgp
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"FellKnight"
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Sep 12, 2006, 9:30 PM

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On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:

> call your isp - they will walk you thur it

No they won't ;)

All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.

Fell
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Website: www.fellknight.com
Email: fellknight at gmail dot com

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Super Steamer
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Sep 12, 2006, 9:38 PM

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On Sep 12 2006 6:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>
> > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>
> No they won't ;)
>
> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
>
> Fell
> --
They should.  If they tell you they don't have newsgroups (I've heard that
before), insist that they do, most tech help these days have no idea what
they're talking about, but will get it done if you insist.

_______________________________________________________________
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"minus200(DELETETHIS)"
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Sep 12, 2006, 10:22 PM

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call your isp - they will walk you thur it

Kinnipak wrote:
> I have tried to configure Mozilla Thunderbird to acess RGP but just cannot
> get it to work. Can anyone out there give me a hint as to how to configure
> it to work?
>
> "just fucking google it" comments are welcome...
>
> ----
> * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
>

--
MINUS200

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention
of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but
rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, scotch in the
other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming
"WOO HOO what a ride!"
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"Kinnipak"
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Sep 12, 2006, 10:22 PM

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On Sep 12 2006 8:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>
> > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>
> No they won't ;)
>
> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
>
> Fell
> --
> Website: www.fellknight.com
> Email: fellknight at gmail dot com

again...confused is what I am. So What to do?...contact comcast? is it
really worth it when recgroups and recpoker work ok?...what is the big
advantage then?

________________________________________________________________________ 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com

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Patti Beadles
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Sep 12, 2006, 10:23 PM

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In article <gj3kt3xald.ln2@recgroups.com>,
FellKnight <jordandevenport@hotmail.com> wrote:

>All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.

There is no server from which RGP is propagated. It's propagated
from all news servers equally.

Usenet is not a hub-and-spoke configuration... there is no central
source. Rather, it's a completely distributed system where no one
site is the master, and all are equal. Some are better connected
than others, but it's still a mesh.

-Patti
--
Patti Beadles, Oakland, CA |
pattib~pattib.org | A sensible religion
http://www.pattib.org/ | is just a contradiction in terms
Or just yell, "Hey Patti!" | -- Roger Taylor
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arlo payne
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Sep 12, 2006, 11:23 PM

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On Sep 12 2006 6:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>
> > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>
> No they won't ;)
>
> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
>
> Fell

Fell really what is wrong with you these days?  They will help and you don't
have a propagated server for RGP it is at all servers that carry it.  He needs
to link to his carrier newsgroup base.  As example earthlinkeast or
earthlinkwest etc.  Also if I had an ISP that did not help me when needed they
would fastly no longer be my isp!
In general people need to start DEMANDING better service in general.  I have
talked about this before but people under 35 seem to take it in the shorts and
then act like that is the expected and accepted norm.

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arlo payne
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Sep 12, 2006, 11:24 PM

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On Sep 12 2006 7:23 PM, Patti Beadles wrote:

> In article ,
> FellKnight wrote:
>
> >All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
>
> There is no server from which RGP is propagated. It's propagated
> from all news servers equally.
>
> Usenet is not a hub-and-spoke configuration... there is no central
> source. Rather, it's a completely distributed system where no one
> site is the master, and all are equal. Some are better connected
> than others, but it's still a mesh.
>
> -Patti

TGIP
Patti thanks for helping those that need it with truth rather that the bullshit
that some want to sell for fact.

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"ShuffletownKid"
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Sep 12, 2006, 11:38 PM

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"Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
news:2l6kt3xgqd.ln2@recgroups.com...
| On Sep 12 2006 8:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:
|
| > On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
| >
| > > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
| >
| > No they won't ;)
| >
| > All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
| >
| > Fell
| > --
| > Website: www.fellknight.com
| > Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
|
| again...confused is what I am. So What to do?...contact comcast? is it
| really worth it when recgroups and recpoker work ok?...what is the big
| advantage then?
|
| ________________________________________________________________________

Try Comcast help:
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Newsgroups118224


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"Kinnipak"
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Sep 13, 2006, 12:06 AM

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On Sep 12 2006 10:38 PM, ShuffletownKid wrote:

> "Kinnipak" <a83ea3b@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:2l6kt3xgqd.ln2@recgroups.com...
> | On Sep 12 2006 8:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> |
> | > On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
> | >
> | > > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
> | >
> | > No they won't ;)
> | >
> | > All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
> | >
> | > Fell
> | > --
> | > Website: www.fellknight.com
> | > Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
> |
> | again...confused is what I am. So What to do?...contact comcast? is it
> | really worth it when recgroups and recpoker work ok?...what is the big
> | advantage then?
> |
> | ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Try Comcast help:
> http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=Newsgroups118224


thx Kid.

:-)

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Joe Long
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Sep 13, 2006, 2:00 AM

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Kinnipak wrote:

> again...confused is what I am. So What to do?...contact comcast? is it
> really worth it when recgroups and recpoker work ok?...what is the big
> advantage then?

Since you're using Comcast, go here:

http://www.comcast.com/Customers/FAQ/FaqCategory.ashx?CatId=200

It has all the info you need. You enter the info by going to Tools,
Account Settings, Add Account, select Newsgroup Account, and Continue.

The big advantage is that Thunderbird is more flexible for newsgroups
than a website (faster, too).


--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range
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Corinthian McVitie Keogh
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Sep 13, 2006, 3:11 AM

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Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, FellKnight said:
> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>
> > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>
> No they won't ;)
>
> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.

There are thousands - that's the point of NNTP.
What we need is a server that carries RGP _AND_ which Kinnipak has
access to.
A lot of people I know reckon it's worth paying Berlin Uni 10 euro a
year for access to their server.

--
2 pair is not the hand to die with in PLO in a multi-way pot on a
coordinated flop.

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Lou
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Sep 13, 2006, 5:23 AM

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Kinnipak wrote:
> On Sep 12 2006 8:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
>> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>>
>>> call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>> No they won't ;)
>>
>> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
>>
>> Fell
>> --
>> Website: www.fellknight.com
>> Email: fellknight at gmail dot com
>
> again...confused is what I am. So What to do?...contact comcast? is it
> really worth it when recgroups and recpoker work ok?...what is the big
> advantage then?
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
>

There are over 40,000 news groups out there so it probably is worth it.

You can start here for TB help: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/
You will need to spend a little time getting the hang of it, but TB is a
pretty good program and the price is right!

Lou

Lou
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"Poker Shark"
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Sep 13, 2006, 5:27 AM

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http://www.pokersharktips.com/

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"da pickle"
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Sep 13, 2006, 9:54 AM

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"FellKnight"

> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>
>> call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>
> No they won't ;)
>
> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.

Some of the replies might assume that you know something that you do not
know. I don't know much, but others may be as confused as I am.

In order to use a news reader, like FreeAgent or Thunderbird, it must "talk"
to a news server. (You can use Outlook Express as a news reader if you are
using it as your mail reader. It configures almost the same way as the mail
reader ... you just substitute different words and numbers.)

My ISP once had a news server and most of the larger ISPs have news servers.
(I pay for my news server at giganews.) The easier way to do it is to call
tech service back at your ISP and find someone that will actually speak to
you. "Someone" will help you eventually. You may not have a news server
... if you do not, you need something like giganews (which has a fee) or a
different "free" news server. (That is beyond me today.)

It is much, much better to access news groups, like rec.gambling.poker with
a news reader than it is to use a web access point like recpoker or
recgroups. If you experience the difference, you will wonder why you ever
thought web access was worth the trouble. There is a giant difference.

Now, configuring a news reader is easy if you know how to do it in advance.
If you do not, it is like any other easy task that you do not yet know how
to do. (I think the reason you have not received specific advice on
configuration is because no one knows the "address" of your news server (of
even if you have one) and they do not know exactly which news reader you
want to use.

Just by way of example, if you open Outlook Express, if you have OE, and
want to try something, then click on TOOLS and then select Accounts. You
will see "folder tabs" titled, All, Mail, News, and Directory Services. If
you click the "mail" tab (and you are using OE as your mail reader) you can
select your mail account and go to "properties" to see how it is configured.
Say it says "mail.*yourisp*.com" as you incoming mail address ... or
"pop.*yourisp*.com" or whatever ... (it may say "smtp.*yourisp*.com as your
outgoing mail address) ... ... anyway, that is the format you will use to
"try" to configure your news reader ... just "assume" your ISP has a news
server.

So, back up and this time choose News instead of Mail.

When you get there, select "add" and then "news" ... ... you will come to a
box for your "display name" and this is the name you want to appear on your
posts ... FellKnight might be good ... then the next box is for the email
address you want to appear with your posts ... "fellknight at gmail dot com"
would work nicely ... then, you are going to need some help with the ending
... it will depend whether the news server requires you to log in, you will
need more than the address ... (the address is likely "news.*yourisp*.com")
if you have an account number and password, that may be necessary but it can
be "remembered" so you do not have to do it more than once. It may be the
same as your mail data. (I strongly recommend writing this information
down. At giganews, you account name and password might be hard to remember
later if you need it.)

I do not know if this helps or hurts. Maybe others can do a better job for
those of us who have difficulty with simple tasks. I have found that tech
folks often use words that are obvious to those who already know what they
are talking about, but are "foreign" to many of us. I am not sure if I am
helping or not. Good luck.


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GH
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Sep 13, 2006, 10:13 AM

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Kinnipak wrote:

> I have tried to configure Mozilla Thunderbird to acess RGP but just
> cannot get it to work. Can anyone out there give me a hint as to how
> to configure it to work?
>
> "just fucking google it" comments are welcome...

Get XNews.

GH
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Lou
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Sep 13, 2006, 3:07 PM

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da pickle wrote:
> "FellKnight"
>
>> On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
>>
>>> call your isp - they will walk you thur it
>> No they won't ;)
>>
>> All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
>
> Some of the replies might assume that you know something that you do not
> know. I don't know much, but others may be as confused as I am.
>
> In order to use a news reader, like FreeAgent or Thunderbird, it must "talk"
> to a news server. (You can use Outlook Express as a news reader if you are
> using it as your mail reader. It configures almost the same way as the mail
> reader ... you just substitute different words and numbers.)
>
> My ISP once had a news server and most of the larger ISPs have news servers.
> (I pay for my news server at giganews.) The easier way to do it is to call
> tech service back at your ISP and find someone that will actually speak to
> you. "Someone" will help you eventually. You may not have a news server
> ... if you do not, you need something like giganews (which has a fee) or a
> different "free" news server. (That is beyond me today.)
>
> It is much, much better to access news groups, like rec.gambling.poker with
> a news reader than it is to use a web access point like recpoker or
> recgroups. If you experience the difference, you will wonder why you ever
> thought web access was worth the trouble. There is a giant difference.
>
> Now, configuring a news reader is easy if you know how to do it in advance.
> If you do not, it is like any other easy task that you do not yet know how
> to do. (I think the reason you have not received specific advice on
> configuration is because no one knows the "address" of your news server (of
> even if you have one) and they do not know exactly which news reader you
> want to use.
>
> Just by way of example, if you open Outlook Express, if you have OE, and
> want to try something, then click on TOOLS and then select Accounts. You
> will see "folder tabs" titled, All, Mail, News, and Directory Services. If
> you click the "mail" tab (and you are using OE as your mail reader) you can
> select your mail account and go to "properties" to see how it is configured.
> Say it says "mail.*yourisp*.com" as you incoming mail address ... or
> "pop.*yourisp*.com" or whatever ... (it may say "smtp.*yourisp*.com as your
> outgoing mail address) ... ... anyway, that is the format you will use to
> "try" to configure your news reader ... just "assume" your ISP has a news
> server.
>
> So, back up and this time choose News instead of Mail.
>
> When you get there, select "add" and then "news" ... ... you will come to a
> box for your "display name" and this is the name you want to appear on your
> posts ... FellKnight might be good ... then the next box is for the email
> address you want to appear with your posts ... "fellknight at gmail dot com"
> would work nicely ... then, you are going to need some help with the ending
> ... it will depend whether the news server requires you to log in, you will
> need more than the address ... (the address is likely "news.*yourisp*.com")
> if you have an account number and password, that may be necessary but it can
> be "remembered" so you do not have to do it more than once. It may be the
> same as your mail data. (I strongly recommend writing this information
> down. At giganews, you account name and password might be hard to remember
> later if you need it.)
>
> I do not know if this helps or hurts. Maybe others can do a better job for
> those of us who have difficulty with simple tasks. I have found that tech
> folks often use words that are obvious to those who already know what they
> are talking about, but are "foreign" to many of us. I am not sure if I am
> helping or not. Good luck.
>
>

Not knowing how much the OP knows is why I pointed him to mozilla help.

Lou
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"FellKnight"
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jordandevenport@hotmail.com

Sep 13, 2006, 4:07 PM

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On Sep 12 2006 8:23 PM, arlo payne wrote:

> On Sep 12 2006 6:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > On Sep 12 2006 6:21 PM, minus200(DELETETHIS) wrote:
> >
> > > call your isp - they will walk you thur it
> >
> > No they won't ;)
> >
> > All we need is the server from which RGP is propagated.
> >
> > Fell
>
> Fell really what is wrong with you these days? They will help and you don't
> have a propagated server for RGP it is at all servers that carry it. He
needs
> to link to his carrier newsgroup base. As example earthlinkeast or
> earthlinkwest etc. Also if I had an ISP that did not help me when needed
they
> would fastly no longer be my isp!
> In general people need to start DEMANDING better service in general. I have
> talked about this before but people under 35 seem to take it in the shorts
and
> then act like that is the expected and accepted norm.

Arlo,

I don't know what you mean "what is wrong with me?"

We only have 2 (non dialup) ISPs here, and both are complete idiots. They
feel that they are only responsible for the setup of the internet and
troubleshooting of problems (please powercycle your modem), and billing.
Pretty much anything beyond that, they will tell you is on your own.

Everyone tells me to use a newsreader. I finally tried Thunderbird for
another group, and it works nicely, but I need the name of a domain (any
one of them I guess) from which RGP can be read.

Fell
--
Website: www.fellknight.com
Email: fellknight at gmail dot com

---- 
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Corinthian McVitie Keogh
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Sep 13, 2006, 4:27 PM

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Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars, FellKnight said:
> Everyone tells me to use a newsreader. I finally tried Thunderbird for
> another group, and it works nicely, but I need the name of a domain (any
> one of them I guess) from which RGP can be read.
>
If Thunderbird can see one newsgroup, it should be able to see them all,
with no change except telling it you want to subscribe to the group -
assuming the admin of the server you're connecting to decided to carry
them, of course. But I can't remember the last time I saw a server that
didn't have rgp.

--
2 pair is not the hand to die with in PLO in a multi-way pot on a
coordinated flop.

[steve1127 on rgp]
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Ian Crorie
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idc@macs.hw.ac.uk

Sep 14, 2006, 5:55 AM

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Corinthian McVitie Keogh wrote:
> What we need is a server that carries RGP _AND_ which Kinnipak has
> access to.
> A lot of people I know reckon it's worth paying Berlin Uni 10 euro a
> year for access to their server.


For info: details on that Berlin Uni newsfeed can be found at:

news.individual.net

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Michael Sullivan
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mes@panix.com

Sep 14, 2006, 7:08 PM

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Corinthian McVitie Keogh <divad.ddub@retsehcnam.ca.ku> wrote:

> A lot of people I know reckon it's worth paying Berlin Uni 10 euro a
> year for access to their server.

They only accept payment through one source though and I found I
couldn't get it to work when I needed to reup (they don't answer their
phone). I gave up and went with newsguy.


Michael
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Ian Crorie
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Sep 15, 2006, 4:53 AM

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Michael Sullivan wrote:
> Corinthian McVitie Keogh <divad.ddub@retsehcnam.ca.ku> wrote:
>
>
>>A lot of people I know reckon it's worth paying Berlin Uni 10 euro a
>>year for access to their server.
>
>
> They only accept payment through one source though and I found I
> couldn't get it to work when I needed to reup (they don't answer their
> phone). I gave up and went with newsguy.
>
>
> Michael

Had the same problem when I needed to rebuy after the first year. When
my old credit card details didn't work (I'd got a new card in the interim)
they suspended my web a/c and asked me to email them the new details.
I refused (plain text emails for credit card info, sheesh).

However, when I asked them to phone me, they did and we got it sorted out.
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Sep 15, 2006, 6:53 AM

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In article <1hllwx2.bdfmhk8283djN%mes@panix.com>, mes@panix.com
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> Corinthian McVitie Keogh <divad.ddub@retsehcnam.ca.ku> wrote:
>
> > A lot of people I know reckon it's worth paying Berlin Uni 10 euro a
> > year for access to their server.
>
> They only accept payment through one source though and I found I
> couldn't get it to work when I needed to reup (they don't answer their
> phone). I gave up and went with newsguy.
>
Ah. I have a reasonable server where I work, and the guy who
admins it runs another as well that I can use for backup, so I
never bothered with Berlin after it stopped being free. Used to
use it a bit before that though. Plus my ISP has one if I get
really desperate, tends to be a bit flaky.
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