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"alan" New User moneyla@aol.com Sep 15, 2006, 12:49 PM Post #1 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables Can't Post http://moredeals.com/notebook.php?selection=nb76 No Karma

"Irish Mike" New User mjostar@ameritech.net Sep 15, 2006, 1:44 PM Post #2 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live games. Irish Mike "alan" <moneyla@aol.com> wrote in message news:1158338943.926896.52900@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://moredeals.com/notebook.php?selection=nb76 > No Karma

FellKnight New User fellknight@REMOVETHISgmail.com Sep 15, 2006, 1:57 PM Post #3 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post Irish Mike wrote: > The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live games. > > Irish Mike If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding yourself. Fell No Karma

"Stop the Congress ! they want to stop U from play New User chokenjoker@yahoo.com Sep 15, 2006, 2:35 PM Post #4 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post   alan wrote: > http://moredeals.com/notebook.php?selection=nb76 The last few sentences of the promo had this .... ** What is particularly interesting about the computerized tables is the technology that prevents others from seeing your hole cards on your personal computer screen.** Uhhhh what is the big deal ?? Why would they have to even mention that ????? Would not that be automatic ...? What am I missing here ///?? No Karma

Porsche_Dan New User 43080932@recpoker.com Sep 15, 2006, 2:51 PM Post #5 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post   I looked at these tables for a local card room and that was the first question everybody asked. Turns out it's not rocket science but somewhat clever. My feeling is that regular card room poker players will not trust them. Internet players might. On Sep 15 2006 1:35 PM, Stop the Congress ! they want to stop U from playing poker on the net !!! wrote: > alan wrote: > > http://moredeals.com/notebook.php?selection=nb76 > > The last few sentences of the promo had this .... > > ** What is particularly interesting about the computerized tables is > the technology > that prevents others from seeing your hole cards on your personal > computer screen.** > > Uhhhh what is the big deal ?? Why would they have to even mention > that ????? > Would not that be automatic ...? What am I missing here ///?? _______________________________________________________________ The Largest Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"alan" New User moneyla@aol.com Sep 15, 2006, 2:56 PM Post #6 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post There was a TV report in Los Angeles about these new tables and the technology a couple of weeks ago. The hole cards appear on each players screen "face down," but when the player cups his hands around the hole cards, the technology flips the cards over so they can be viewed. Remove your cupped hands and the cards turn face down again. Regarding the rake: it will be less, obviously. And no dealer tips. That's my understanding. Porsche_Dan wrote: > I looked at these tables for a local card room and that was the first question > everybody asked. Turns out it's not rocket science but somewhat clever. > > My feeling is that regular card room poker players will not trust them. Internet > players might. > > On Sep 15 2006 1:35 PM, Stop the Congress ! they want to stop U from playing > poker on the net !!! wrote: > > > alan wrote: > > > http://moredeals.com/notebook.php?selection=nb76 > > > > The last few sentences of the promo had this .... > > > > ** What is particularly interesting about the computerized tables is > > the technology > > that prevents others from seeing your hole cards on your personal > > computer screen.** > > > > Uhhhh what is the big deal ?? Why would they have to even mention > > that ????? > > Would not that be automatic ...? What am I missing here ///?? > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > The Largest Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"minus200(DELETETHIS)" New User "minus200(DELETETHIS)"@bellsouth.net Sep 15, 2006, 4:54 PM Post #7 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post get off those drugs - you know the answer damn shame too - some of the biggest tells in poker come from players and what they do with chips Irish Mike wrote: > The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live games. > > Irish Mike > > "alan" <moneyla@aol.com> wrote in message > news:1158338943.926896.52900@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>http://moredeals.com/notebook.php?selection=nb76 >> > > > -- MINUS200 "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, scotch in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!" No Karma

"Irish Mike" New User mjostar@ameritech.net Sep 16, 2006, 1:39 AM Post #8 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post I have no idea what the rake will be on the computer games. Logic would say it should be lower than live games because of the reduced labor cost. On the other hand, the dealers would probably protest a lower rake and see it as a threat to their job security. Time will tell. Irish Mike "FellKnight" <fellknight@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message news:%PBOg.668$ya1.616@news02.roc.ny... > Irish Mike wrote: >> The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live games. >> >> Irish Mike > > If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding yourself. > > Fell No Karma

Joe Long New User nospam@spam.com Sep 16, 2006, 4:47 AM Post #9 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post Irish Mike wrote: > I have no idea what the rake will be on the computer games. Logic would say > it should be lower than live games because of the reduced labor cost. On > the other hand, the dealers would probably protest a lower rake and see it > as a threat to their job security. Time will tell. > > Irish Mike As most players don't have a clue about how much the rake costs them, I would expect it to be the same. But you'd still save on tokes. > "FellKnight" <fellknight@REMOVETHISgmail.com> wrote in message > news:%PBOg.668$ya1.616@news02.roc.ny... >> Irish Mike wrote: >>> The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live games. >>> >>> Irish Mike >> If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding yourself. >> >> Fell > > -- Joe Long aka ChipRider Somewhere on the Range No Karma

Porsche_Dan New User 43080932@recpoker.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:06 AM Post #10 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post These tables are expensive so the rake will probably be the same. The real benefit is the hands per hour is 2x and of course no dealers to deal with. On Sep 16 2006 3:47 AM, Joe Long wrote: > Irish Mike wrote: > > I have no idea what the rake will be on the computer games. Logic would say > > > > it should be lower than live games because of the reduced labor cost. On > > the other hand, the dealers would probably protest a lower rake and see it > > as a threat to their job security. Time will tell. > > > > Irish Mike > > As most players don't have a clue about how much the rake costs them, I > would expect it to be the same. But you'd still save on tokes. > > > > "FellKnight" wrote in message > > news:%PBOg.668$ya1.616@news02.roc.ny... > >> Irish Mike wrote: > >>> The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live games. > >>> > >>> Irish Mike > >> If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding yourself. > >> > >> Fell > > > > > > > > -- > Joe Long aka ChipRider > Somewhere on the Range _______________________________________________________________ Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"Irish Mike" New User mjostar@ameritech.net Sep 16, 2006, 11:12 AM Post #11 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post Are these computer tables leased or purchased by the card club? Irish Mike "Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com> wrote in message news:1158415603$871199@recpoker.com... > These tables are expensive so the rake will probably be the same. The real > benefit is the hands per hour is 2x and of course no dealers to deal with. > > On Sep 16 2006 3:47 AM, Joe Long wrote: > >> Irish Mike wrote: >> > I have no idea what the rake will be on the computer games. Logic >> > would say >> > >> > it should be lower than live games because of the reduced labor cost. >> > On >> > the other hand, the dealers would probably protest a lower rake and see >> > it >> > as a threat to their job security. Time will tell. >> > >> > Irish Mike >> >> As most players don't have a clue about how much the rake costs them, I >> would expect it to be the same. But you'd still save on tokes. >> >> >> > "FellKnight" wrote in message >> > news:%PBOg.668$ya1.616@news02.roc.ny... >> >> Irish Mike wrote: >> >>> The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live >> >>> games. >> >>> >> >>> Irish Mike >> >> If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding >> >> yourself. >> >> >> >> Fell >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Joe Long aka ChipRider >> Somewhere on the Range > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"GrimJack808" New User grimjack808@gmail.com Sep 16, 2006, 12:25 PM Post #12 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post If ou can 'fix' a slot machine...so much so that before they pay a jackpot they come and break it down to make sure it wasn't 'malfunctioning,' then you can certainly fix these games as well. I prefer to stick with the dealer. That being said, I am sure the machines cannot cost too much. I have seen some pretty complex arcade machines, and I know they retail for around $30K. Even at a dollar a game, they won't make nearly as much as a machine with a $4-5 raker per hand. If arcade operators can make money off of a $30K machine at a few quarters per game, then Hollywood ojer is going to make a mint off of these games. If they lease them, then they are giving money away to the manufacturer. But if the manufacturer is smart, they will try to lease them instead of selling them outright. This is the model that Shufflemaster has followed, and it has worked out well for them because they have a small niche market as would presumably be the market for poker arcade machines. At the end of the day, these machines aren't much different than the old Sigma Derby Horse Racing Games/Slots that used to be found all over Vegas and now are very hard to find. I have to say, I have had some fun times playing this -EV game due to the people I've been playing with. It is hands down my favorite slot machine ever made. Here is a photo: http://tinyurl.com/rkjcp I couldn't find any photos of the mechanical clop-clop horses, from above. Sadly, as casinos phase out coin in, these machines are being retired. See this page for a petition to save the Sigma Derby from Extinction at the MGM. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/670059238?ltl=1158423787 Here is what the modern version looks like, although I have never seen one ins the US. Good Luck! -------------------------------------------------------------- $100 Free Party Poker Bankroll -OR- $50 Free Titan Poker Bankroll $100 Free Absolute Poker Bankroll No Deposit/No Credit Card (US & CANADA) http://www.pokersourceonline.com/freepoker/money.asp?rc=GRIMJACK808 Extra $60-$90-$120 over & above normal bonus for 12 popular sites: http://www.pokersourceonline.com/freepoker/gifts.asp?rc=GRIMJACK808 Irish Mike wrote: > Are these computer tables leased or purchased by the card club? No Karma

Porsche_Dan New User 43080932@recpoker.com Sep 16, 2006, 4:18 PM Post #13 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post   Leased with fat ass service agreements. On Sep 16 2006 8:12 AM, Irish Mike wrote: > Are these computer tables leased or purchased by the card club? > > Irish Mike > > "Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com> wrote in message > news:1158415603$871199@recpoker.com... > > These tables are expensive so the rake will probably be the same. The real > > benefit is the hands per hour is 2x and of course no dealers to deal with. > > > > On Sep 16 2006 3:47 AM, Joe Long wrote: > > > >> Irish Mike wrote: > >> > I have no idea what the rake will be on the computer games. Logic > >> > would say > >> > > >> > it should be lower than live games because of the reduced labor cost. > >> > On > >> > the other hand, the dealers would probably protest a lower rake and see > >> > it > >> > as a threat to their job security. Time will tell. > >> > > >> > Irish Mike > >> > >> As most players don't have a clue about how much the rake costs them, I > >> would expect it to be the same. But you'd still save on tokes. > >> > >> > >> > "FellKnight" wrote in message > >> > news:%PBOg.668$ya1.616@news02.roc.ny... > >> >> Irish Mike wrote: > >> >>> The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live > >> >>> games. > >> >>> > >> >>> Irish Mike > >> >> If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding > >> >> yourself. > >> >> > >> >> Fell > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Joe Long aka ChipRider > >> Somewhere on the Range > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com _______________________________________________________________ New Feature: Mark All As Read! - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"Irish Mike" New User mjostar@ameritech.net Sep 16, 2006, 4:42 PM Post #14 of 14(195 views) Shortcut Re: Hollywood Park set to open computerized poker tables [In reply to] Can't Post Well then the house has an excuse to keep the rake as high as in live games. Can't make the dealers feel very good though. Irish Mike "Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com> wrote in message news:1158437910$871337@recpoker.com... > > Leased with fat ass service agreements. > > On Sep 16 2006 8:12 AM, Irish Mike wrote: > >> Are these computer tables leased or purchased by the card club? >> >> Irish Mike >> >> "Porsche_Dan" <43080932@recpoker.com> wrote in message >> news:1158415603$871199@recpoker.com... >> > These tables are expensive so the rake will probably be the same. The >> > real >> > benefit is the hands per hour is 2x and of course no dealers to deal >> > with. >> > >> > On Sep 16 2006 3:47 AM, Joe Long wrote: >> > >> >> Irish Mike wrote: >> >> > I have no idea what the rake will be on the computer games. Logic >> >> > would say >> >> > >> >> > it should be lower than live games because of the reduced labor >> >> > cost. >> >> > On >> >> > the other hand, the dealers would probably protest a lower rake and >> >> > see >> >> > it >> >> > as a threat to their job security. Time will tell. >> >> > >> >> > Irish Mike >> >> >> >> As most players don't have a clue about how much the rake costs them, >> >> I >> >> would expect it to be the same. But you'd still save on tokes. >> >> >> >> >> >> > "FellKnight" wrote in message >> >> > news:%PBOg.668$ya1.616@news02.roc.ny... >> >> >> Irish Mike wrote: >> >> >>> The big question is, what will the rake be compared to their live >> >> >>> games. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Irish Mike >> >> >> If you think it will be anything but the same, you are kidding >> >> >> yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> Fell >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Joe Long aka ChipRider >> >> Somewhere on the Range >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________________________ >> > Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > New Feature: Mark All As Read! - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

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