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"TonySayz" New User tonysayz@gmail.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:41 PM Post #1 of 8(502 views) Shortcut AA v J10o and Being Aggressive Can't Post OK, this hand kind of pissed me off but I'd like to know if I was wrong in playing the way I did. 8/10 NL Holdem .25/.50 blinds 50-buyin Me: $38.71 Opponent #2: $57.62 PREFLOP UTG: Folds Me: (AhAs) Raises to $2 Opponent #2: Calls $2 Opponent #3: Folds Opponent #4: Folds Opponent #5: Folds Small blinds: Folds Big blinds: Folds FLOP 8c 7h 10h Me: Raises to $5 Opponent: Calls $5 TURN 9s Me: Raises $10 Opponent: Calls $10 RIVER 9h Me: Raises all-in $21.71 Opponent: Calls $21.71 Opponent Wins: Js 10d 8c 7h 9s (straight) Me Loses: AsAh 9s 9h 10h (2pair) The guy kept calling the whole way down, was hard to put him on either a draw or a made hand. I kind of thought that if he was on a draw it would be a flush draw or an open ended and not a gutshot straight draw since I overbet the pot on the flop. So when the turn was a 9 I thought the best move would be to bet hard to see where I stood. When he called the $10 on the turn I was about to fold and then the 9h hits and I thought it might be a good opportunity to bluff. I was dead wrong. Thanks for your help, Tony No Karma

JGroomsTD New User Rackin_frackin@yahoo.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:44 PM Post #2 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post I cant think of a hand that can call a $21 bet on the end that cant beat AA On Sep 16 2006 10:41 PM, TonySayz wrote: > OK, this hand kind of pissed me off but I'd like to know if I was wrong > in playing the way I did. > > 8/10 NL Holdem .25/.50 blinds 50-buyin > > Me: $38.71 > Opponent #2: $57.62 > PREFLOP > > UTG: Folds > Me: (AhAs) Raises to $2 > Opponent #2: Calls $2 > Opponent #3: Folds > Opponent #4: Folds > Opponent #5: Folds > Small blinds: Folds > Big blinds: Folds > > FLOP > > 8c 7h 10h > > Me: Raises to $5 > Opponent: Calls $5 > > TURN > > 9s > > Me: Raises $10 > Opponent: Calls $10 > > RIVER > > 9h > > Me: Raises all-in $21.71 > Opponent: Calls $21.71 > > Opponent Wins: Js 10d 8c 7h 9s (straight) > Me Loses: AsAh 9s 9h 10h (2pair) > > The guy kept calling the whole way down, was hard to put him on either > a draw or a made hand. I kind of thought that if he was on a draw it > would be a flush draw or an open ended and not a gutshot straight draw > since I overbet the pot on the flop. So when the turn was a 9 I > thought the best move would be to bet hard to see where I stood. When > he called the $10 on the turn I was about to fold and then the 9h hits > and I thought it might be a good opportunity to bluff. I was dead > wrong. > > Thanks for your help, > Tony _______________________________________________________________ Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"TonySayz" New User tonysayz@gmail.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:48 PM Post #3 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post I wasn't looking for a call at the river... JGroomsTD wrote: > I cant think of a hand that can call a $21 bet on the end that cant beat AA > > On Sep 16 2006 10:41 PM, TonySayz wrote: > > > OK, this hand kind of pissed me off but I'd like to know if I was wrong > > in playing the way I did. > > > > 8/10 NL Holdem .25/.50 blinds 50-buyin > > > > Me: $38.71 > > Opponent #2: $57.62 > > PREFLOP > > > > UTG: Folds > > Me: (AhAs) Raises to $2 > > Opponent #2: Calls $2 > > Opponent #3: Folds > > Opponent #4: Folds > > Opponent #5: Folds > > Small blinds: Folds > > Big blinds: Folds > > > > FLOP > > > > 8c 7h 10h > > > > Me: Raises to $5 > > Opponent: Calls $5 > > > > TURN > > > > 9s > > > > Me: Raises $10 > > Opponent: Calls $10 > > > > RIVER > > > > 9h > > > > Me: Raises all-in $21.71 > > Opponent: Calls $21.71 > > > > Opponent Wins: Js 10d 8c 7h 9s (straight) > > Me Loses: AsAh 9s 9h 10h (2pair) > > > > The guy kept calling the whole way down, was hard to put him on either > > a draw or a made hand. I kind of thought that if he was on a draw it > > would be a flush draw or an open ended and not a gutshot straight draw > > since I overbet the pot on the flop. So when the turn was a 9 I > > thought the best move would be to bet hard to see where I stood. When > > he called the $10 on the turn I was about to fold and then the 9h hits > > and I thought it might be a good opportunity to bluff. I was dead > > wrong. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Tony > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

arlo payne New User arlo_payne@hotmail.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:50 PM Post #4 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post   On Sep 16 2006 7:41 PM, TonySayz wrote: > OK, this hand kind of pissed me off but I'd like to know if I was wrong > in playing the way I did. > > 8/10 NL Holdem .25/.50 blinds 50-buyin > > Me: $38.71 > Opponent #2: $57.62 > PREFLOP > > UTG: Folds > Me: (AhAs) Raises to $2 > Opponent #2: Calls $2 > Opponent #3: Folds > Opponent #4: Folds > Opponent #5: Folds > Small blinds: Folds > Big blinds: Folds > > FLOP > > 8c 7h 10h > > Me: Raises to $5 > Opponent: Calls $5 > > TURN > > 9s > > Me: Raises $10 > Opponent: Calls $10 > > RIVER > > 9h > > Me: Raises all-in $21.71 > Opponent: Calls $21.71 > > Opponent Wins: Js 10d 8c 7h 9s (straight) > Me Loses: AsAh 9s 9h 10h (2pair) > > The guy kept calling the whole way down, was hard to put him on either > a draw or a made hand. I kind of thought that if he was on a draw it > would be a flush draw or an open ended and not a gutshot straight draw > since I overbet the pot on the flop. So when the turn was a 9 I > thought the best move would be to bet hard to see where I stood. When > he called the $10 on the turn I was about to fold and then the 9h hits > and I thought it might be a good opportunity to bluff. I was dead > wrong. > > Thanks for your help, > Tony Really: keep your day job. You have tons and tons to learn _______________________________________________________________ New Feature: Mark All As Read! - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

JGroomsTD New User Rackin_frackin@yahoo.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:54 PM Post #5 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post Understood.   Your opponent was thinking the same thing.   When he hits his hand on the turn and you bet into him, he has nothing to lose by calling.  If he raises you dump.   If you check the end, he can value bet.   If you have the image as a tight player you are dead meat in that spot.  On Sep 16 2006 10:48 PM, TonySayz wrote: > I wasn't looking for a call at the river... > > JGroomsTD wrote: > > I cant think of a hand that can call a $21 bet on the end that cant beat AA > > > > On Sep 16 2006 10:41 PM, TonySayz wrote: > > > > > OK, this hand kind of pissed me off but I'd like to know if I was wrong > > > in playing the way I did. > > > > > > 8/10 NL Holdem .25/.50 blinds 50-buyin > > > > > > Me: $38.71 > > > Opponent #2: $57.62 > > > PREFLOP > > > > > > UTG: Folds > > > Me: (AhAs) Raises to $2 > > > Opponent #2: Calls $2 > > > Opponent #3: Folds > > > Opponent #4: Folds > > > Opponent #5: Folds > > > Small blinds: Folds > > > Big blinds: Folds > > > > > > FLOP > > > > > > 8c 7h 10h > > > > > > Me: Raises to $5 > > > Opponent: Calls $5 > > > > > > TURN > > > > > > 9s > > > > > > Me: Raises $10 > > > Opponent: Calls $10 > > > > > > RIVER > > > > > > 9h > > > > > > Me: Raises all-in $21.71 > > > Opponent: Calls $21.71 > > > > > > Opponent Wins: Js 10d 8c 7h 9s (straight) > > > Me Loses: AsAh 9s 9h 10h (2pair) > > > > > > The guy kept calling the whole way down, was hard to put him on either > > > a draw or a made hand. I kind of thought that if he was on a draw it > > > would be a flush draw or an open ended and not a gutshot straight draw > > > since I overbet the pot on the flop. So when the turn was a 9 I > > > thought the best move would be to bet hard to see where I stood. When > > > he called the $10 on the turn I was about to fold and then the 9h hits > > > and I thought it might be a good opportunity to bluff. I was dead > > > wrong. > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > Tony > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Watch Lists, Block Lists, Favorites - http://www.recpoker.com/ _______________________________________________________________ Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

Super Steamer New User 43071968@recpoker.com Sep 16, 2006, 10:55 PM Post #6 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post   On Sep 16 2006 7:48 PM, TonySayz wrote: > I wasn't looking for a call at the river... > The call on the turn might have been a clue.  _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

"TonySayz" New User tonysayz@gmail.com Sep 16, 2006, 11:02 PM Post #7 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post I know. The last thing I wanted was an excuse to bet again at the river but then it came... I knew I couldn't win by checking and the guy just came into the game so I didn't know his style yet and I guess I miscalculated my FE. Next time I won't bluff at the river... I don't think I could have won that hand no matter what I did. I just didn't realize it until it was too late. Super Steamer wrote: > On Sep 16 2006 7:48 PM, TonySayz wrote: > > > I wasn't looking for a call at the river... > > > The call on the turn might have been a clue. > > _______________________________________________________________ > * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

tling New User lingt69@hotmail.com Sep 17, 2006, 12:23 AM Post #8 of 8(502 views) Shortcut Re: AA v J10o and Being Aggressive [In reply to] Can't Post   lol... well said On Sep 16 2006 10:50 PM, arlo payne wrote: > > > > On Sep 16 2006 7:41 PM, TonySayz wrote: > > > OK, this hand kind of pissed me off but I'd like to know if I was wrong > > in playing the way I did. > > > > 8/10 NL Holdem .25/.50 blinds 50-buyin > > > > Me: $38.71 > > Opponent #2: $57.62 > > PREFLOP > > > > UTG: Folds > > Me: (AhAs) Raises to $2 > > Opponent #2: Calls $2 > > Opponent #3: Folds > > Opponent #4: Folds > > Opponent #5: Folds > > Small blinds: Folds > > Big blinds: Folds > > > > FLOP > > > > 8c 7h 10h > > > > Me: Raises to $5 > > Opponent: Calls $5 > > > > TURN > > > > 9s > > > > Me: Raises $10 > > Opponent: Calls $10 > > > > RIVER > > > > 9h > > > > Me: Raises all-in $21.71 > > Opponent: Calls $21.71 > > > > Opponent Wins: Js 10d 8c 7h 9s (straight) > > Me Loses: AsAh 9s 9h 10h (2pair) > > > > The guy kept calling the whole way down, was hard to put him on either > > a draw or a made hand. I kind of thought that if he was on a draw it > > would be a flush draw or an open ended and not a gutshot straight draw > > since I overbet the pot on the flop. So when the turn was a 9 I > > thought the best move would be to bet hard to see where I stood. When > > he called the $10 on the turn I was about to fold and then the 9h hits > > and I thought it might be a good opportunity to bluff. I was dead > > wrong. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Tony > > Really: > keep your day job. > You have tons and tons to learn > _______________________________________________________________ * New Release: RecPoker.com v2.2 - http://www.recpoker.com No Karma

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